Nice flat spot for debris. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. rooms for rent in. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. The clue is in the word personal . Question: Is any heater like this okayed by Insurance companies? In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. Well it depends on what version you get. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. So, for those looking for a way to reduce your bills, why don't you have your attic better insulated, replace your windows (if needed), and have a new heating unit or units installed, finance it all, and pay the extra on the payments instead of on the extra electricity you are using now. My house has two geothermal units in it, one went out the week of Christmas and I couldn't get anyone in to work on it. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. We have unplugged our Eden Pure and have decided to think of this as a 300.00 back up heat source in case our gas furnace takes a dump. are surprised when they experience comfortable, cost-efficiently operating systems in other manufactured homes. There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. The machine shot out sparks. Nothing has changed. So people, please pay attention to this post and others like it and don't fall victim to this Biotech/Eden pure scam. bl. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. zp. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. Your info states 1000 cubic ft but the edenpure.com states 1000 sq ft. you also do no state the type of heaters being compared so this is not an apples to apples comparision just a guess. So reliability can be good or bad. You are dead wrong pilgrim. sellers and buyers must dedicate ourselves to paying the cost of doing the right thing or the one who doesn't dissappears. This Ken guy below me is an idiot and so are all those so called engineers that claim you get the same heat from any 1500 watt heater. I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. Have i used them. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. Everything is on the website and on the adverts. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. You cannot beat basic rule of physics saying that energy does not come from nowhere, and does not disappear to nowhere. I have changed my mind and will not be purchasing the eden pure and will no longer trust Mr. Vila as someone who has MY best interest at heart. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. 2) Say you live in a 11,000 sq. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. Lowering the thermostat(s) by 3F would likely result in minimal discomfort for you and your family, but are you willing to keep your home at 50F? I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 27, 2011: Let us know how the EdenPURE works for you, the man. Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all. Answer: You will need to review your homeowner's policy to see if this heater is covered. Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. FACT: Of course it will. I'll definitely buy another. Would i recommend them? If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. I borrowed one of these heaters from my Mom and it heated the whole back half of my house. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. If the ceiling were 12', then the amount of air, 1200 cubic feet, would need heating. 2 Guys with a beard does not equal credibility. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. Turned on in December. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. dont buy this heater,if you live in California. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. Because heating up a room with electric heat is the most expensive way to do it, simply closing off furnace ducts to unused rooms would result in bigger savings using an EdenPURE, and it would not involve the cost of a new heater. I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. Regular price. Once these last bulbs burn out, I will no longer use this over priced heater. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. Im just another sucker. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. I will not call this a scam. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. The importance of this is any space heater will do that. For the same heat output, electrical heaters are way more expensive than heating with a fuel like natural gas. Want a great laugh? Sweeney, William Mapother, Richard Portnow, Logan Huffman. Since the same heater at Amazon is under $100 my guess is they lowered their price to compete better. A portable electric heater can keep small rooms warmer without heating the remainder of the home to a higher temperature. It claims to scrub the air in a 1000 cubic foot room. My electric bill actually increased. they will endorse anything for a price . Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. Have tried it a few times since after unplugging it and the same thing happens, it will run for just a couple of minutes and it dies. Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. E.g. If a company goes out of its way to rectify a customers complaint, it not only does away with the complaint but provides a more loyal customer than if the cause of the complaint had never happened. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. Design in an electric heater is everything. This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. EdenPUREs manufacturer makes several claims about its heater. Bill Burkett Wiki: Salary, Married, Wedding, Spouse, Family Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. . Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? Yes, you can buy heaters for less, but do you trust leaving them on during the night or when away from home. LMAO, i will say for one i have a ranch style home and its 1800 sq ft and i dont use ne thing but an eden pure except sometimes an additional space heater in my bedroom wich is nearly half my house and i tel ya it does stay war,m i have put plastic and stuff up but in reality i was payin 300 plus a month and now its always under 250 so somthin workn cause i write my monthly bills on a calendar to compare and believe me th thermostat stays off and so do eden pure at nite soo i duno if u got a 3 story mansion i wouldnt worry if ur one level get one is my advice. Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. If I spend less, good. The problem with this, of course, is that you are not saving money by heating the house more efficiently. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). I guess not. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. etc. The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. I told customer services I wanted my money refunded and was told NO WAY you have had your heater over the 60 days satisfaction guarantee.. What the h..l are they talking about I have a 5 yr warranty. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! It is likely that Sylvania gets the rated 20,000 hours of bulb life in their normal testing fixtures / burn racks. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! Glad I read all these posts before wasting my money on Edenpure though. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. I criticize the device for a few reasons: But Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure says it best: Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! Bill Burkett is 70 years old and was born on 09/11/1951. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. that I happen to agree with. ductwork loses a lot of energy if it is in unheated areas (your attic, your basement, etc.) The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. But if you're going to buy a space heater, you don't have to shell out $400 or more for the EdenPure Gen 3 Model 1000. That crock of the well-known barnyard commodity doesn't cut it. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. Their flagship product, the EdenPURE infrared heater, was first launched in 2007. I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. I've had my EdenPure for over 10 years and it's still going strong. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. I wonder how much Edenpure payed Bob Vila to get on television and tell all these lies about the Gen 4 heaters? In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. It's not the space heater itself that saves you money, it's the fact you aren't heating the rest of the space in your home. The linear source of infrared radiant energy and heat exchanger are mounted in a heater core that is thermally insulated by an air jacket from an exterior case. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! Paying almost $400.00 an Edenpure with needing bulbs every two years, these are no longer a savings, Biotech Research lends their name Edenpure out to all these little retailers who soak you on the price of the heating bulbs. THINK ABOUT IT. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. I don't believe people can stay comfortable in their homes with just a space heater, so I don't believe they'll reduce your heating bills in half. My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. Claiming an electric heater will reduce your energy bill at all is stretching the truth. Unh uh !! Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Until recently, Eden Pure ads claimed their technology was based on the serendipitous finding by some farmer named "John Jones." About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. (Every degree you lower the thermostat(s) can save you about 2 percent on your heating bill.) where is the savings plus spending $900.00 on the units. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. Some people still can't get it. The story is that Jones' furnace went off in his big drafty farm house. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. I was dumb enough to fall for this scam. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. Nothing is 100% efficient. Zero marketing at that point. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. They are perfect for sleeping. Talk about a rip off. A UNIT is $1000. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 Sorry folks, some things I forgot to point out One item that they point out in the Bob Vila scam (I can't call it anything but!) Only if you needed this type Of heater. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. So I am not really surprised. Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. ****. You have to have a control then you have to know all of the temperatures outside, the amount of insulation, the temps in the house, the furnace size and type (gas , electric, propane) how 'tight' the house is and several other factors. However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. He went to the furnace room and found it comfortably warm, which he attributed to the retention and re-radiation of heat from a sheet of "cured copper" stored there. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. Crawfordville, FL (1) Daytona Beach (FL) (4) Fort Myers-Cape Coral (FL) (6) Fort Pierce-Port St. Lucie (FL) (1) About the same. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. You save $ using a portable heater because you can heat just the space you're in at the time. Underdogs: Directed by Doug Dearth. up. It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. ft. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. It costs me about $9.00 per day to heat my house with Propane. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. I cannot comment about the energy saving from the Edenpure Gen 4 as it quit working about 2+ months after it was purchased on EBay from Bass Pro Outlets. It's not that I think the EdenPURE doesn't work. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. FACT: Nonsense. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. Leverage your professional network, and get hired. I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. I live on a mountain in Colorado. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. list of inmates being released due to coronavirus 2022. That scenario assumes that you have to heat only a single room to heat at a time or that you own multiple EdenPure space heaters; that once you're in a room you stay put and don't move around the house; and that you're willing to keep the rest of your home at a chilly 50F. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. Don't buy this slick ripoff. If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! If you sheeple need to believe otherwise, so be it. cj. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. Just picked one from trash. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. A lie specifically sold on Bob Vila to get on television and tell all these before. 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