Peace has descended across the land and now the attention turns who the new heir to the throne may well be. Like you I would have liked to know more of the Lord Gil Sam Bong affair. Not as many ribbons and bows that way, but also no time skip that leaves more unanswered questions. So-woon asks what took him so long, and he says that he dreamed for so long that when he woke, a lot of time had passed. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! A great fit. I didn't even recognize him from his turn as wild and crazy PD Lee Gang in RADIO ROMANCE. The internal and external forces driving a wedge between the monarchy and its people seemed overwhelming, and someone with a weak resolve . While there were memorable scenes and dialogue, I feel like the overall message the show was trying to convey got muddled along the way. I've seen a lot of fictional sageuks but they all stuck with their time period. Moo Young should have survived. All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. I really liked to see how the generosity of this character touched the people around him. Live together in a small hut just the two of them and So Woon's maid in obscurity for the rest of their lives? There have been worse plot resolutions. I'll have to go back and rewatch it. I was expecting more repercussions and a deeper analysis into these morally grey characters, but their actions, especially the murder of Yi Heon, were brushed over in simple strokes, diminishing the weight and impact of these moments. I too loved MLSHR, BUT I enjoyed it WHILE knowing and recognising its flaws. He says that even if he stepped down and one of them took the throne, the country would be okay. And the music is perfection. He does as So-woon asks and sends her from the palace to wait for him while he ties up some loose ends, and they arrange to meet in the village soon. LollyPip, thanks for the recap. Poor Moo-young is hurt that Ha Sun tried to leave him behind, and Ha Sun marvels, You really have fallen for me! LOL, that joke never gets old. 2. He cries again as Ho-geol accompanies Minister Lees body out of the palace and past the rebel soldiers, then the gates are closed again. 1. He existed as a fully fledged character. To show how good and righteous the Clown was? SO COOL.you just turned this drama into the preamble to "KINGDOM". Ha Sun has become immune to this mans slippery techniques of deception. For sure an emotional roller coaster ride. Poop smell can change for illnesses as well haha. Did it seem to anyone else that there were too many generals possibly coming to help from too many provinces? As So Woon is unable to bear children, Ha Sun decides to leave the throne to a more worthy contender, proclaiming he was only borrowing the throne temporarily and never fully deserved the accolade. Yes me too. The two could have wandered the country checking that new reforms were taking place. knew it would happen before the end of this drama: line 7, strike TTC and insert TCC. Because they went about writing it completely the wrong way, and the premise was flawed from the very beginning due to how they decided to tell it. While Ha Sun is studying in the library, Eunuch Jo says that he hasnt been sleeping and suggests he go to bed early. }; I thought I would have caught up through at least ep. Prolly will make the beeeest drama with 0 plotholes and AMAZING storyline. But Minister Shin and the queen dowager convinced themselves that their crimes were righteous and that they were morally innocent, when in reality they only wanted power and revenge. This feels like irony in my perspective, since between episode 6 to 8, she says that it does not matter if Ha Sun is late or not, he will always be there. Likewho took care of him? The Clown cannot be King if there is no pre-existing King for him to pretend to be. Stars Yeo Jin-gu Se-yeong Lee Kim Sang-kyung See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video It was one of my most fun and blissful experiences here at DB. At the start of the story, we could see that he gave up, he was just in damage control task. Where did he get money to travel around? A) Ha Seon gives up the throne. Or well he did but not the important ones. The ending of The Crown season 5 centers on Queen Elizabeth II's (Imelda Staunton) dramatic feelings of obsolescence while Prince Charles (Dominic West) fruitlessly campaigns for greater stature as the future King and the tragic fate of Princess Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) hangs in the air. Speaking of Haksan- Haksan killed the king. Because I think writing can be objectively bad, and no matter how many times I try and prove this, back it up with philosophical and canon evidence, you, and half this comment section, are always going to think something being bad is relative and subjective; only opinion and perspective. Fictional or not, no sageuk has ever dare to change the royal line of Joseon. But i liked the way things happened in this drama as well. appId : '127538621120543', The acting was superb, the scenery was beautiful and the story was different from its source material. Alas, it never materialized. 3.2/4 The decoy is a clown who happens to be the king's doppelgnger. And after all that complaining, that was where it truly felt like an ending, except for what happened during those two years. We can write what we want but everyone involved in it worked really hard to bring this to life. But I'm still not sure how the Queen managed to stop feeling guilty over her initially inadvertent betrayal of Yi Heon. He holds his own well, but neither of them sees the archers who sneak around behind Ha Sun and fire two arrows into his back. I've tried to watch it about four times now and still I could anticipate the bad taste it would leave in my mouth. Lord Giseong (cameo by Yoon Park), backs up Ha Sun, saying that he only wants to make sure the people are taking the correct medicines, making Ha Sun smile gratefully. You didn't like it that doesn't mean others shouldn't like it. When Kab-soo and Dal-rae's clown troupe arrived where Ha Sun had intended to rendezvous with the former Queen, I wondered how the guardian managed to leave his job working for the navy in Ha Sun's hometown. Ah.I just can't forget how foolhardy Hasun was to leave without protection when he knew that he had so many people against him. The uncanny, period-inappropriate costumes, hairstyles, makeup and actors turned me off right at the VERY beginning of the drama. The story takes place in Joseon period, when power struggles surrounding the throne had reached extreme levels. And he shouldve been. I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. Shiver!! One that is like a wolf trying to be a sheep and telling everyone that it is a sheep, when its actually still a wolf. It wasnt explicitly said, but I believe that once he had gotten revenge on Minister Shin and the queen dowager, he realized that hed been using the throne for his own personal reasons and thats why he abdicated to someone who could truly put the country first. It's fine if they want to tell the story of a Crowned Clown- what's not fine is HOW they chose to go about doing it in this particular scenario. Then, someone walks past an open gate alone Ha Sun. So what!? Why would I want to watch something when there are no stakes for a plot that should have all the stakes? (In case you don't know, it's a weekly article we had then to publish the BEST comments of the week. Anyway since i have heard of this king and his door keeper story since childhood the concept wasn't that new to me. He used to swap cloths with the guard make him sit on the throne and would laugh when ministers and noble men bowed to the guard. Eunuch Jo gives Ha Sun a drawing that he made of him, remembering how Ha Sun once drew him a picture to cheer him up. Finally its time for Ha Sun to go. And if there is a pre-existing King for him to be then who that king IS (or was) is very, very important. I agree with you that I would have liked to seen Yi Heon's back story pre crazy King and addiction. In this video we take a deep dive and explain Season 5 of Netflix/Peter Morgan's "The Crown" reviewing its connection to the real royal family, history, and . The Perron family is greeted by evil just as they arrive at the farmhouse. They tell the story of a king who was as handsome as he was wise, and whose greatest talent was looking out for his people. I've watched enough sageuks to understand the ethos even if I don't always personally agree with it, and am disturbed when social conventions and obligations of earlier historical periods are flouted, or treated as if they don't exist. The plot cant take any additional eps. He says hes been planning this since the rebellion, because the throne doesnt belong to him hes only been borrowing it. Well have the full season review written up shortly but for now, its fair to say the show ended on a well-deserved high. Rather than be daring, some parts felt more sensational than meaningful. Thank you, fellow Beanies, for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comments. I expected a pair of little ones running in the yard! Mohamed Al-Fayed's expectations for his son Dodi are the cliff upon which Season 5 leaves its audience hanging. The point I was trying to make in this essay, is that I think The Crowned Clown has objectively bad writing flaws- namely Yi Heon is an example of bad character writing, whether he dies or not (@leetennant) Haksan had to die for his sins. Also I don't see why kill Moo Young in the last moment right when he had finally accepted Ha-Sun as his Master, it felt out of the blue. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The ending. So what if youre a prince. I was interested in Moon Lovers, but when I read only bad comments, I searched for synopsis and ending and actually it had so much so much potential that it's a pity it went that way. And that there was a happy ending, of course! So-woon insists, saying that shes enjoyed hearing about someone she admires. Monk Jung Saeng agrees that Minister Lee wouldnt want them to die for nothing. Ha Sun stands stock-still as Minister Shin raises his sword to strike then the gates open for Minister Shin to see that his soldiers have all been killed or captured. I especially enjoyed his sound effects of Yi Heon on a bender. What a lovely ending. But to create a 'bad' end then rush a 'good' one without solid backing feels weird. Minister Lee was doing it to create a better world, and he never denied that what he was doing was wrong he accepted that he would be punished, but he was willing to sacrifice himself for his country. The problem is, is that the show did not actually want to tell the story of the King AND the Clown. The makers of this show (and I assume the movie) decided to show that story by means of a doppelganger plot. I hate sounding petty, but, uh, what? It might have all been clear to Koreans or anyone else who knows the province names, but it seems to me like they were jerking us around by having the general from near the northern border turn around and then having another general turn up like magic. It would have been interesting to see him evolving and becoming paranoid. Please enlighten us. The same night during a family game, one of the daughters finds the entrance to an eerie cellar - which Roger inspects immediately but finds nothing. Some peasants could have been shown taking them in. And nobody found out the Clown wasnt the King because the King is dead. Gap-soo is crediting this wise king for the current peace in the nation when So-woon arrives, and when the king in his red robes and mask dances, she smiles wistfully. cookie : true, // enable cookies to allow the server to access The character had reached the point of no return and the "goings-comings" between the Palace and the outside would have been boring. The soundtrack and instrumental music was lovely, and enhanced the action. Just when I thought this drama couldnt get any worse they introduced the seperation trope! But its not a secret to the close people to them. In fact, I was this close to forgoing this entire essay last night and just shitposting for this recap, like I did for Memories of Alhambra. js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js"; Ever since she promised to protect the clown, everyone keep serving her chopped onions. The Crowned Clown: Episode 16 (Final) by LollyPip It's time for our clown to sink or swim on his own, and one wrong move could mean his death and the death of everyone he cares about. Shes decided to leave the gibang, and she tells Ho-geol that she intends to travel and just enjoy life for a while. Which is a rarity these days in Kdrama land. There are of course all the issues with adultery and what shouldve been her reaction given the historical context and even arguments about who was the better husband for her, but none of that is really that important or relevant because on a basic writing level, her character, after trying to commit suicide promptly forgot, or acted like the King as a character never existed and was never important. But I dont know the Clown. He manages to throw his sword and take out the assassin about to finish off Ha Sun, then slips around Ha Sun to take the sword meant for him. But of course everyone can have its own opinion. I was not expecting his remaining foes, Daebi and Lord Shin, to lose their mojo or get a group rate on lobotomies. What can I say. But then they killed Moo Young for no reason and it made me so inexplicably angry that I cant seem to move on. Gimme a break! Thats is why the drama is "Crowned clown" or "the man who became king" . In this video, we give a full ending expla. Though nervous he won't be able to pull off the subterfuge, the decoy leads successfully, and falls in love with the queen in the process. Why not let him save Ha Seon and then serve him for those two magic years? *(Out of Character: not a logical decision for the character to make based on how they have acted previously). Eunuch Jo asks to come with him, but Ha Sun says he cant because hes recommended him for a promotion, and the new king needs him as much as he did when he first arrived in the palace. After wrapping up the loose ends with both Queen Dowager and Sin Chi Soo, we skip forward a year (or so I presume due to the first dialogue exchange). fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); I think that was an unfortunate oversight. Grrr. Lord giseong is a prince as i understood. Sheesh. Of course, they arent worth the time I suppose. Again, why? When I thought it couldnt get worse, it did. I mean, i dropped this show about halfway through so I didn't watch the back half. A few final thoughts: He falls to the ground, and although Moo-young tries to hold Ha Sun back, he breaks away and runs to cradle Minister Lees head in his arms. Yay for Jung Il-woo and the Good Guys. She did get to meet his sister without knowing it was her. She says that Ha Sun stole the throne from Prince Yul, and that she may drink poison and die, but shes not the loser, because Ha Sun will be remembered as the king who killed his mother. Irrelevant time frame. That relationship? Thanks @kiara and @pakalanapikake for all your comments during the run of THE CROWNED CLOWN. The king was instantly killed. also the end was dreamlike, similar to the soft focus happy endings of Crash Landing on You but were these true endings or just wishful thinking? xfbml : true, // parse social plugins on this page I truly enjoyed the drama's cinematography, particularly the outdoor settings. So-woon had sobbed that if Ha Suns body wasnt there, he must be alive somewhere. The cast and crew can be proud of their production; The prince appear for less than a whole minute, says a couple of pretty obvious statements and I'm supposed to believe he's meant to rule? I didnt watch more than the first episode, but to kill off such a central character and then not resolve the conflict that the murder would have caused would have been an utterly frustrating watch for me as well. Gone. What was the point? The Clown is King? Even jin pyong and dowager queen found it out in the last minute and the whole thing happened within 3, 4 months. Was glad when I saw Officer Jang want to accompany him, but then when those assassins attacked I was like????? Then they reunited in death and walked off into the sunset. I also do not agree with the author of the recap -- that protecting the power of the king is protecting the people. xfbml : true, // parse social plugins on this page But this show decided to ignore one crucial part of this premise. Bonus points if it's a sageuk. She decides to let Ha Sun pay tribute to Minister Lee, so he allows Minister Shin and Prince Jin-pyung to leave the palace. Please enter your username or email address. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. Couldnt stop watching. It was unconvincing. At times he made me forget that it was fiction. I wanted to try a sageuk, and picked TCC to discuss about it here on DB. Like you, I'll pray to the Drama Gods that we be preserved from simultaneous sageuk scheduling in the future. I was lucky, it was so beautiful about music, acting, costumes, and I appreciated that there was balance between politics and romance. . He had no backstory. It aired simultaneously with PBG's Moonlight Drawn by Clouds (MLDBC). But Yeo Jin Gu is awesome throughout the drama, i love him. 7-8 of HAECHI before today, but no such luck. A character as significant and prominent as the King, doesnt even have to be on screen for anything that happens to him to be very important to how your plot plays out if you want your plot to make sense. But Ha Sun stabs him in the belly, declaring that the price for killing Minister Lee is his death. Maybe even shown the Queen's Lady having a hint of interest in him. When I was watching HWAJUNG, I had to put it on the back burner a bit more than half-way through, and didn't get back to it for three weeks. From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything Ive loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. I think they could show us the Lord "I don't remember his name" rebellion because it was not very clear and still had a big place in the story of this character. And its not ministers its just one minister, others didn't want to believe it. According to Nielsen Korea, the highly-anticipated March 4 finale of the historical drama achieved the drama's highest viewership. Ha Sun orders the ministers waiting outside to enter. . var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; and so on. Since Writer-nim didn't bother to reveal who patched up Ha Sun and kept him safe while he recovered, I'll fill in the blanks by assuming that he somehow ended up in the care of Doctor Monk. Hopefully you will and i would watch it definitely. He was the king without the crown, the mastermind. She presses a finger to the stress lines between his eyes, looking worried for him. She orders Ha Sun to confess to colluding with Aisin Gurun and disrespecting Ming, their ally. This kind of doppelganger plot makes more sense in the movie. Also the king wasn't allowed to read his own records in case he'd changed it. Seriously reviewing shows is too exhausting; I rather like @hotcocoagirls idea of Yi Heon returning as a vampire, and becoming a sullen loose canon on the Officer Jang and Uri Mathematician investigative team. Minister Lee : he was really a great character. An emotional farewell with Eunuch Jo (now Royal Secretary Jo) ensues and Ha Sun leaves the palace for good, following after So Woon who left the palace just before he did. I'm going to miss this drama. FB.init({ Did he not know that one was a royal twin (considered bad luck?) The king very much liked practical jokes. Thank you for the suggestion, @marcusnyc20, I will try Haechi in the future :), Congrats on your 1st Sageuk! They have to go back and redo it!!! or The King comes back later, as a cameo and as an excuse for conflict but we will kill him off because he's really not important to the Clown's story now; he's in the way. 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